2025: The old world is dying | Peter Leyden
In the video “2025: The Old World is Dying,” futurist Peter Leyden explores a pivotal moment in history marked by the rapid rise of transformative technologies. As we navigate through 2025, Leyden asserts that we are witnessing the dismantling of outdated systems and the formation of a new societal framework, driven by innovations such as artificial intelligence, clean energy, and bioengineering.
Drawing parallels with past pivotal epochs in American history, Leyden identifies recurring cycles every 80 years where significant shifts occur. He references past transformative periods, such as post-World War II and the Civil War, highlighting how America emerged from chaos to innovation. Leyden believes we are on the brink of a similar renaissance, as the adoption of disruptive technologies prompts a fundamental reimagining of our economy and governance.
The video emphasizes that this transformation isn’t merely technological; it’s a redefinition of societal structures, moving towards digital democracies and sustainable capitalism. As we stand at this critical junction, Leyden urges viewers to comprehend the scope of change on the horizon and its potential to reshape our future.
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“We’re living in an extraordinary moment in history. We are at a moment here in 2025 where we have world historic game-changing technologies now starting to scale.”
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We are living through the collapse of the old world, and the quiet construction of a new one. From artificial intelligence and clean energy to bioengineering and digital governance, the core systems that defined the last century are rapidly being dismantled and replaced. But this isn’t just about technology.
According to futurist Peter Leyden, we’re at a historic turning point: One of the rare moments in American and global history when everything gets reimagined at once.
0:00 An extraordinary moment in history
1:05 Wired magazine
2:09 Technology adoption curve
2:53 80 year cycles
3:26 Post-war era
5:08 Gilded age
6:59 Founding era
8:24 The arrival of AI
9:42 The rise of clean energy
10:52 The rise of bioengineering
13:45 The beginning of a shift
References:
Article: Ziegler, M. S.; Trancik, J. E. Re-Examining Rates of Lithium-Ion Battery Technology Improvement and Cost Decline. Energy Environ. Sci. 2021, 14, 1635–1651.
DOI: 10.1039/D0EE02681F
URL: https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/artic…
Dataset: Ziegler, M. S.; Trancik, J. E., 2021, “Data series for lithium-ion battery technologies”, https://doi.org/10.7910/DVN/9FEJ7C, Trancik Lab Dataverse, V1, UNF:6:sVT2vBwWolbQL4BxsTSDUg== [fileUNF]
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About Peter Leyden:
Peter Leyden is a longtime tech expert and thought leader on the future. He came to San Francisco to work with the founders of WIRED magazine at the beginning of the digital revolution and has followed the front edge of technological change every step since—including into the AI revolution today.
In addition to being an influential writer and author, Leyden is a keynote speaker who has explained the implications of new technologies and the positive possibilities to come to audiences throughout America and Europe on a monthly basis over the last 25 years.
Leyden also founded several startups that pioneered fields transformed by new technologies and currently advises senior leaders in strategic foresight through his company Reinvent Futures. Get more on all of this on his website.
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Video “2025: The old world is dying | Peter Leyden” was uploaded on 10/20/2025 to Youtube Channel Big Think
Tell that to the Amish let the Luddites unite
That's also extraordinary is the aspect ratio of this video.
The video saying the title over and over again for 15 minutes straight and pretending to be deep.
Big Think is meant for small brains.
Dangerous ideas from a perverse ideology. No thanks! Glad I listened to understand the extent of the enthusiasm for these ani-human ideas. They necessarily involve the suppression of individuality (unless it is expressed through AI, human innovation and creativity (unless it is manifested through AI), the balance of the natural world and a new "master, slave" relationship IMO.
Dude is too chaotic.
Interesting. Thank you for this information.
AI is a field of study.
Intelligence is just an ability to adapt. It's about how well one can differentiate distinct stimuli and how much one can change accordingly.
AI is not limited to deep learning or LLMs.
Plants responding to gravity, that's still intelligence to some sense, just as epigenetic is sort of akin to intelligence.
We use the word intelligence when it meets our subjective idea of complexity.
Intelligence does not have to be deep learning.
Even something as simple as a toaster is an intelligent machine per se.
The degree of intelligence is about how many points of distinction one can differentiate. When it comes to the level of humans, it becomes analytical. Analytical thinking is not a different type of thinking. It's positioned at the highest hierarchy of intelligence. One might try to differentiate spatial intelligence from analytical intelligence, but they are really the same thing. They rely on points of distinction. You have to understand what a shape represents and its limitations when it's oriented differently. It's an ability to recognize what something cannot be and what it can be. Mind mapping is also intelligence.
When it comes to language use, however, the distinction becomes fuzzy. Language use is like half parrot-like and half analytical. It really only comes down to how precisely one communicates and how many literary devices one uses. What I mean is, language use is half habituary based on mimicry- it sits at the level of monkeys and lower animals. Math is the discipline that requires pure intelligence. And the language that is used in math is precisely made to describe interactions between objects, just like how spatial intelligence is about interactions between objects and orientations of objects. So spatial intelligence is the rawest form of intelligence that is unhindered by other subjective factors.
There is also some studies that show chimpanzees don't have less working memory as they can recall patterns shown on a screen better. That could be true, but it depends. If you memorizing them by chunks, and assigning meaning to shapes, then you're using the prefrontal cortex. So a smart monkey cannot beat a smart human in that task either. The only case is when a smart money beats an average monkey shaped like a human, and that was proven through experiments.
So AI is not a new invention. We have been using AI.
And deep learning was there since 50 years ago.
The only thing that has been changing is computers have been getting cheaper.
And the amount of words on the internet is certainly a new thing too. That's why LLM is seeing the hype.
But anyone who understands the underlying architecture will know the limits of LLM.
LLM is just a fancier search engine that allows one to cheat on homework better.
And it's also nice for translations.
Great video. It also helps to consider much longer timescales. Three key events: The dawn of single cell intelligence, the dawn of animal intelligence, the dawn of artificial intelligence. That's not an 80 year cycle.
I don’t know what world this dude lives in but we are about to become slaves to oligarchs and AI and we will probably be revolting sooner than later
10:21 the prices would come down if the Federal Reserve stopped inflating currency. Corporations would charge less if they didn't have a mandate to maximize profits.
This time around it is going to be different. This time we are all entangled.
I think the future depends upon not only new technology but how we are going to use this tech breakthrough for social and personal growth of humanity. How we can improve educational, healthcare, policy and economy system in the new technological environment?
Similar to the founding era, this one is built on the back of slave labor
These guys are fucking useless. They tell a neat story and pretend to know what they’re talking about, but they don’t. You can’t extrapolate Uber replacing taxis to AI replacing humans. You fundamentally don’t understand how gen AI works if you believe we’re on track to AGI. If you work in the field and are close to the tech, you would understand that LLMs are stalled out. They aren’t really going to get more accurate without totally scrapping the whole thing and inventing a totally new approach. LLMs are pattern matching tools, which are good at approximating your desired result at the cost of a ton of reliability and accuracy. They match your context to their training data and the result is basically a summary of the most relevant pieces of training data, with limited accuracy. But real work doesn’t really have a perfect match to be regurgitated, and it needs to be accurate. Anyone using these tools heavily already knows you have to manually review everything because they are very unreliable.
DARPA probably had ChatGPT 25 years ago.
Humans have not become happier as technologies advanced, I don't get his enthusiasm
Interesting video! However, I’ve found that history is more like an interconnected web than a series of separate boxes. History never occur in a vacuum.
WE vs ME Society ???
WE, the People vs ME, the Trump Kingdom ???
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WE must overcome the insanity of Trump Domination to continue our progress, now ???
Another lefty with their utopian pie-in-the-sky horseshit. Some of his hindsight is accurate but a lot of it makes it obvious he's promoting a political agenda and knows not of what he speaks. Solar panels don't require anything coming out of the ground? Where does he think the materials to make solar panels come from? He disses on capitalism but doesn't offer a solution to lift up the 80% he says it isn't working for, which is a statistic not supported by any sort of data whatsoever. The ultra wealthy have got that way through a variety of means but take Amazon for example, it only got to be a 2 trillion dollar company because people want their services (and so do a lot of companies). If no one wanted their service Jeff Bezos would be just another working stiff. Same with Apple, Google, Microsoft, you name it. People have more disposable income than ever, credit is easier to get than ever, buying a home is easier than ever, look up the data – what 'system' is going to make it better? Lot's of nonsense in this presentation.
Basically had slavery???? No it was slavery.
how much crack do I need to smoke to be on this guys level?
I only belive in one historic model. chaos = stability after chaos = paradigm shift = chaos = stability after chaos. No one can predict where we are now or how long it is gonna last. That is a jon for the historians of the future
So this whole video is a cover for pushing the GREEN SCAM?? I am out.
FOSSIL FUEL IS KING AND CAN NEVER BE REPLACED..
You keep repeating cheaper cheaper cheaper. I think the distinction here is that although Tech can get cheaper in the sense of products (solar, batteries…) being "less expensive" and scalable so available to more people but that does not mean affordable. My computer is a 2010 Macbook pro. It can barely surf the internet. I have to use a stripped down versions of Firefox or Brave just to watch this video. I cannot afford a new computer because my income did not go up in the past 15 years and innovation has made getting a job near impossible (at least for me at 60), but the cost of a new computers has actually gone up. to get a comparably updated computer is twice the money (adjusted for current tech). You say once it is a technology you can drive down the cost. I would caveat that and say you can bring it down to an "achievable" mass produce-able level, but Human greed if nothing else will never allow it to be distributed at an "affordable level" unless something else comes along to actually replace it for more money. I appreciate your faith in the Human Condition though. Also I think you are missing the the actual direction our "Democracy" is heading. Recent events around the world indicate a movement toward Oligarchy If not straight up dictatorship. We are always on a knifes edge. The Man in the High Castle is an excellent example of fiction exploring the drastic change in direction any society can make.
just beautiful
Firing americans saying its ai but itsH1b visa check the stats bias bull%%%
Its about control
I'm fine with new energy but green energy (I.E. wind, solar..) isnt consistent enough outside of specific areas. Great for supplimental source but still not enough for main source of energy. Batteries happy for increase storage but has yet to match potential of oil based stuff. Which if it can cool. Now a """""pure""""" technology bro it isnt. Unless it is made out of pure energy it still requires minerals. AI probably is future for raw calculations but needs to be used in specific situations or people will become dumber by being over reliant on it. Lab grown meat I want more testing done I dont want a repeat of US companies over sterilizing foods and killing people again thus needing a new Benjamin R. Jacobs. Not against this stuff just tone down oversell.
Somehow human wisdom and understanding must catch up to technology advances or we will self-destruct and have to begin again
lets hope this is at least close to our future
Global governance this is the real goal of the rich and their acronymic organisations
Corpo blaber. Remember how cheap uber was at launch? Try it now – that's a boom strategy to push amenities to our throats BEFORE they gonna hit for the money.
All that 'abundant clean energy', thaaaat, the corporations will still charge exorbitant prices for. Gotta keep the proles down.
Bro hasn't realised that the world is not America
Sustainable capitalism -> yes
Digital democracy -> totally no, we see that China is winning now not because they working hard, they winning because they have wise government which can do almost everything and not always listen to the people but take care of them.
Global Governance -> we already on the beginning of globalization, we are coming back to nations and nationalism
good video. Utopian but thats the only way to make a video like this
A couple of big problems near the end of the video. (1) Lots of people in 1945 thought nation states were going to fade away "soon" because "some kind" of "global governance" was going to develop "soon". Oops! That darn crystal ball, so smudged! (2) The notion of a shift from representative democracy to (something different that this video vaguely calls) "digital democracy" is worse than a handwave: it's a vacuous claim. Are you claiming that this so-called "digital democracy" would be NOT representative? If not, what is it, then? Do you think that any kind of direct democracy (digitally facilitated by technology) is either (1) feasible or (2) imminent? If you do, I've got a 1945 "world government" notion to sell you, which was equally naive. Make it make sense, at least, even if you can't do more than that. What exactly are you trying to talk about? The problem we face in 2025 is how large of a number of people among the general public are flat-out against representative democracy because they're so poorly educated and ignorant of the past that they think autocracy would be better than it.
I still think AI is a dead end technology. It's just destroying our ability to access accurate information.
Any predictions beyond 5 years are less than worthless.
I absolutely love the way these were framed. Great job Free Think, Big Think🧠
forgot robotics nanotech quantom computing and Nuclear fusion
Black people were killed and had their land stolen during the homestead act. He is just glazing history
Don't count on global governance. It proved to be corrupt and self-serving during COVID and wars and people noticed.
Nothing about this sounds good for the future, man.