The terrifying ways that social media is altering teenage brains | Clare Morell: Full Interview
In her compelling interview, Clare Morell, a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, exposes the alarming impact of social media on the developing brains of teenagers. Drawing from her book, “The Tech Exit,” she argues that smartphones and social media are not just distractions; they fundamentally disrupt childhood by replacing genuine social interactions with virtual ones. Morell highlights how the addictive design of these platforms hijacks normal brain development, making youth increasingly susceptible to feelings of loneliness, anxiety, and depression.
During critical growth periods, children’s brains become wired for social rewards, but social media delivers artificial dopamine highs that skew their perception of genuine happiness. This results in a cycle of craving more online engagement at the expense of real-life experiences. Morell emphasizes that parental controls and screen time limits fall short, as they do not address the addictive nature of these platforms.
Offering a clearer path, Morell introduces the idea of opting out of smartphones for children, suggesting alternatives like “dumb phones” and emphasizing the value of real-world interactions. She calls for collective action, urging families, schools, and policymakers to implement stricter regulations on tech companies to protect children’s mental health. As the digital landscape continues to evolve, Morell advocates for a nurturing environment where wholesome childhood experiences can thrive—away from the omnipresent grip of screens.
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Smartphones and social media are hijacking our younger generation’s childhood and development in a frightening way. Clare Morell, researcher and author of The Tech Exit, is sounding the alarm.
0:00 Hijacking our children’s brains
0:42 Smartphones are hurting our children
2:27 Social reward wiring
3:25 Dopamine deficit
4:00 Desensitization
5:34 A child’s brain on social media
11:32 How to exit tech and give your kids a better life
13:14 Why screen time limits fail
14:52 Tech-free families
16:12 Smart phone and mental health quality
18:08 Dumphones
19:33 Social media and social isolation
24:57 Autism and ADHD and Electronic Screen Syndrome
26:46 How smartphones distract us
28:41 Technoference
31:20 How to free your child from the perils of smartphones
32:16 What to focus on after exiting tech
34:18 Getting your kids’ buy-in
45:18 What is a reasonable age for a smartphone?
57:01 The decline of reading scores
57:57 Reading on screens versus reading on paper
1:01:58 Section 230 law
1:08:55 The pornography epidemic
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About Clare Morell:
Clare Morell is a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC) and director of the Technology and Human Flourishing Project. She is the author of The Tech Exit: A Practical Guide to Freeing Kids and Teens from Smartphones.
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there need to be smartphones for kids with unbreakable shild safety metrics that cant just be toggled off
Australia the only county that gives an f about their kids mental health, other countries are all about profit.
I did alot of psychedelics as a teenager when my brain was still developing, and read alot of literature and philosophy, have a masters degree, became and accountant and a teacher, and a lifelong free spirit. Introvert mostly, of course. I was told by EVERYONE in my environment how bad these substances were for me. They were wrong.
Kids are conditioned to have LOW attention spans which will affect their ability to read, study and excel in extended learning processes. Generations are being dumbed down allowing foreign populations like China to steam roll over them. 50% of the internet is bots. Individuals, groups, organizations, and governments can pay to have bots flood social media with whatever narrative they want. Views, likes/dislike ratios, subscribers, comments all can be manipulated by bots but today's youth STILL believe social media is 100% human beings. Truly sad times we're living in especially when the BILL is due in 30-years or less.
Dip those Flats a little bit
We should have the direct ability to BLOCK "social" apps in our homes. I can turn off CNN in a push of a button.
No real info here, just a list of problems said a billion times before and an ad for her book that has the "solutions". There's a big difference between toddler (ipad used as shutup device), child (elementary school) and teen (13-16 with social ties). Never mind that the schools themselves are addicted to freeware smartphone tools (ie: Google classroom). Classes are beginning to integrate AI tools as research helpers and outlining tools. Let's not forget that we have to get all of your kids' friends to let go of their devices too. Schools are increasing class sizes and cutting back on extracurricular activities, (no more school dances), we were all terrified out of shared 3rd spaces (arcades and pool halls) due to "drug" and "gang" fears, and let's not forget that parents are addicted to their devices as well. In our mad rush to keep our kids "safe" but not letting them play outside because there's a pedo behind every bush, we've made a generation of neurotic basement dwelling doomscrollers. Great job! The irony of watching this infomercial on my device for 30 minutes before shutting it off is not lost on me.
Not just kids..
Here's a simple one, STOP GIVING KIDS SMART PHONES.
These tech companies should be charged like drug lords IMO. Zuckerberg, Snapchat CEO, all criminally charged.
Okay, I'm actually nervous there's been this push lately with internet censorship and restricted online media access, including gradually sweeping mention of ID to use sites. Anyone seeing this as an erosion of our ability to share information? That our online public spaces will slowly be smothered?
The Cult of Certainty: How Scientism Mistakes Symbols for Reality
Abstract
This essay dismantles the illusion of scientific and mathematical authority over reality. It argues that physics, mathematics, and cosmology have become modern priesthoods—fluent in symbols, blind to their own assumptions, and convinced that their linguistic constructions constitute the world itself. Beneath their precision lies an unacknowledged act of faith: the belief that their frameworks, born of human limitation, can speak for the infinite complexity of Nature.
1. Introduction: The Rise of a New Dogma
Where religion once claimed the cosmos, scientism now reigns. Its prophets wear lab coats instead of robes, its scriptures are peer-reviewed, and its miracles are equations. It promises salvation through measurement, yet forgets that every instrument was built by fallible hands, every metric chosen by fallible minds.
Science is not the problem; its humility is. Scientism—the conviction that empirical method alone exhausts reality—is philosophy dressed in the armor of precision, mistaking its own reflection for the world.
2. The Frame That Sees Only Itself
Every experiment begins with a premise: what to measure, how to measure, what counts as real. Instruments do not reveal Nature; they negotiate with it, returning answers framed by the questions we taught them to ask.
To believe otherwise is to mistake a telescope for the stars. The data that scientists prize as “objective” already arrive pre-filtered through design, expectation, and interpretation. What emerges as “fact” is not a message from Nature but a conversation among humans—mediated by language, technology, and theory.
Scientism hides this circularity behind jargon and precision. Its practitioners forget that a system cannot justify its own axioms; the framework that defines observation cannot step outside itself to claim omniscience.
3. Mathematics: The Most Beautiful Pretend Game Ever Played
Mathematics is sublime—but it is also make-believe. Its truths are conditional: if these axioms, then those conclusions. When physicists write the cosmos in equations, they are translating mystery into grammar. The translation is elegant, but it is not the thing itself.
To claim that “the universe is mathematical” is to commit linguistic idolatry. Numbers describe patterns; they do not explain being. The formula E=mc² predicts the behavior of matter and energy—it does not tell us what matter or energy are. The certainty of mathematics is the certainty of definition, not of reality.
Einstein himself warned against this confusion: the moment mathematics becomes certain, it ceases to refer to the world. The moment it refers to the world, it ceases to be certain.
4. The Mirage of Empirical Authority
Modern physics and cosmology are cathedrals built on inference. Dark matter, dark energy, singularities, strings—none of these have been seen. They are invoked to preserve the internal coherence of equations that cannot account for observed phenomena. These invisible entities are not discoveries but placeholders for ignorance, named and worshipped as though naming made them real.
The irony is exquisite: in fleeing metaphysics, science reinvented it. It simply changed the vocabulary. Where theologians spoke of the divine, cosmologists now speak of the singularity; both point to something unobservable that explains everything else.
5. Consciousness: The One Fact That Cannot Be Denied
All observation presupposes an observer. Before there is data, there is awareness. Before there is theory, there is experience. To reduce consciousness to neural noise or quantum computation is to saw off the branch upon which knowledge sits.
Science studies phenomena within consciousness while pretending to stand outside it. But consciousness is the condition of the entire enterprise—the light by which all “facts” are seen. Without it, there is no experiment, no equation, no universe as such.
Thus, consciousness is not an afterthought of matter but its precondition. Every attempt to explain awareness as an emergent property of blind particles is a failure to recognize that “blind particles” are themselves ideas appearing in awareness.
6. The Human Element: Experts, Priests, and Pretenders
The “expert” class often claims to speak for reality itself, as though a PhD confers divine insight. Yet their authority rests on consensus, not revelation. Peer review replaces peer thinking; specialization rewards obedience over insight.
Academia has become a hierarchy of sanctioned ignorance—brilliant minds confined to narrow tunnels, mistaking the light at the end for the sun. Their jargon is a fortress built to defend not truth but prestige. To question them is to be labeled “unscientific,” a modern form of heresy.
But no title or theorem exempts a human from the same fleshly frailty that binds us all. Every calculation, every cosmological model, is written by a primate briefly conscious on a tiny planet, staring into an abyss and mistaking its own reflection for the infinite.
7. Conclusion: The Return to Wonder
Science is a method. Reality is an experience. To confuse the two is to turn curiosity into creed. The universe does not speak in equations; it speaks in being.
The humility proper to inquiry is not the arrogance of certainty but the recognition that the map will never become the territory. Our instruments may refine the contours of what is measurable, but the immeasurable remains—the mystery that births both observer and observation.
The task is not to abolish science, but to restore perspective: to remember that the finger pointing to the moon is not the moon, and that the most perfect formula will always fall short of describing the fact that anything exists at all.
Reality cannot be owned by a discipline, only encountered by a consciousness.
Why It Is Impossible to Produce Indisputable Evidence That Nature Is Not Infinite
1. You cannot prove non-existence beyond observational horizons.
Physics is bounded by observational limits:
Cosmic horizon
Particle horizon
Measurement precision
Quantum decoherence boundaries
Anything outside these horizons is not empirically accessible even in theory.
Thus, any claim of a “finite Nature” requires absolute knowledge of what lies beyond all possible observation — which is impossible.
You cannot prove a boundary you cannot detect.
I thought marijuana was bad?
Disagree: the greatest threat to healthy childhood are extremists and children of extremists drugging children with and without their knowledge in order for the results to be exploited as mental illness.
she undermines her points by using the ambiguous term "phone" to apply to "smart phones" and "dumb phones."
She is just looking like AI ITSELF 😂❤
It’s corporate greed at the end of the day. They are killing people for profit
smartphone does not make people more connected. Compare the bandwith of social media with real person to person interaction. which kind of connection has more information transmitted between the persons?
1. Are altering. Media alter. A medium alters.
2. Language is a social medium.
Please consider elected representation. If users of media chose to elect reps and recognize the choices of others, this would allow us to exaxtly measure the representation of each member and groups of those members. 1to1Representation.
These algorithms NEED regulation
What about a much bigger threat. Activity that kills a person. Erases individuality and free thinking. Religion.
Hundreds on millions of young humans are basically erased/murdered by religion every generation.
People need to like work together… they have capacity… and kids need to learn cooperation… so why not give them the choice? Let’s see who does better… and then you guys can learn more… rather than talking about these stupid stuff… so give them like a skill tree… hey guys… this group they don’t know but they will figure out… they will have smartphones in school. The other how about no… but then, …
Do people understand like the more important points of policies and stuff? Governance? Hello? At the end of the day… all these don’t matter… u r missing the point… I hope some people can understand this point.
Thank you for education about social media
This distills further than devices and social media. Corporate power has never been so unfettered and hyper focused to execute on psychological exploits of people and consumers. Children are just a casualty of it whether intentional or not. The government which SHOULD act as regulator encourages this, instead of functioning as a check and balance. That is all outsourced and offloaded to people who largely have shown that they want to be told what to want, need, do, follow, be influenced by and consume.
The tech exit
All part of the Addiction Economy. Lets fix nutrition, nicotine and alcohol while we are at it
What about abuse? That's a challenge to a healthy childhood
FEAST is a real game changer
Such beautiful talk. I would love to buy her book soon. A lot to learn for me too even though I don't have kids yet. I have cousins who deeply struggle with their kids' phone usage. They can't bring their kids to not use smartphones because every other kid is using it. All the concerns she mentioned were basically the only reasons kids can't give up smartphones. I skipped the legal aspects because they did not concern me as I'm not in USA, but I absolutely loved the rest. Thank you.