Why chasing after enlightenment will trap you in suffering | Robert Waldinger
Why Chasing Enlightenment Will Trap You in Suffering | Robert Waldinger
In this inspiring and thought-provoking video, Zen teacher and psychiatrist Robert Waldinger challenges the traditional notion of enlightenment as a final destination or mystical state. Instead, he emphasizes that enlightenment is an ongoing process—an “ever-shifting recognition of the present moment.” Drawing from his experiences as a Zen master, Waldinger explores concepts such as mindfulness, impermanence, and compassion, illustrating how they can relieve suffering and foster deeper connections with ourselves and others.
He explains that Zen practice is less about achieving a perfect state of being and more about embracing all aspects of our messy, chaotic human experience. By accepting impermanence—the idea that everything is in constant flux—we can find freedom from the pressure of self-improvement. Waldinger underscores the importance of “beginner’s mind,” encouraging us to approach life with curiosity instead of rigid expectations.
Ultimately, the video advocates for enlightened activity in each moment, rather than a futile quest for an unattainable state of enlightenment. Join Waldinger on a journey of self-discovery that encourages compassion and acceptance, helping us navigate the challenges of life more gracefully.
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“The idea is that we move from a place of wanting the world to conform to what we like [towards] not needing other people to be different from who they are.”
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Most of us feel we have miles to go with self improvement. That we want to become calmer, wiser, more finished. What if this pursuit actually keeps us trapped from that becoming? Zen teacher and psychiatrist Robert Waldinger argues that enlightenment isn’t a destination or a rare mystical state. Rather, it’s the ever-shifting recognition of the present moment.
This quiet state of noticing, Waldinger says, can be extremely liberating, freeing us from the pressure of becoming.
0:00 Everyday Zen: mindfulness, impermanence, and compassion
0:45 Zen and community
2:52 Awakening
3:28 Impermanence
5:44 The Four Noble Truths
10:14 Having a beginner’s mind
15:22 The concept of enlightenment 
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About Robert Waldinger:
Robert Waldinger, MD is a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, a practicing psychiatrist, psychoanalyst, and a Zen teacher and practitioner.
For the last two decades, Waldinger has been the director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development. This study, conducted over more than 85 years, has analyzed the entire lives of 724 families to determine the activities, behaviors, and dynamics that enhance a person’s life-long well-being. Waldinger has dedicated his career to examining these elements and discovering what brings true fulfillment to human existence.
He is the author of several books, including his most recent, The Good Life: Lessons from the World’s Longest Scientific Study of Happiness.
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🐟 17. THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN SPIRITUAL AWAKENING, LIBERATION, & ENLIGHTENMENT:
AWAKENING:
Any person who has experienced a state of cosmic awareness can rightly be called a “buddha” (a Sanskrit/Pali term for “an awakened being”). During such TEMPORAL experiences (that is, they begin at some point in time and then end at a subsequent point in time, even if at the time of death), there is usually an apparent dissolution of the subject-object dichotomy, or at least a radical shift in one’s perception of life. In the most profound awakening experience, the perceiver, the perceived, and the perceiving, mystically unify (“advaita anubhava”, in Sanskrit).
Awakening means to clearly see that one’s persona is but a character in a dream of The Absolute, and that one is essentially that Flawless Awareness. Therefore, it is not to be taken literally – that the person wakes from the “Cosmic Dream” in the same way that a human wakes from a night dream. It simply implies that the person realizes that he/she is one of the multitude of dream CHARACTERS, and that individual free-will was purely an illusion. When one experiences a night dream, one usually identifies with only one particular character (for example, “last night, I dreamed that I played chess with the prince”). However, all the characters in one's dream originate in the very same mind. Similarly, the living creatures in this universe are naught but characters in the “Mind of God”, to put it in theistic terms.
During such awakenings, one experiences the non-conceptual state, which is somewhat akin to the state of equanimous mind or "steady-mind" (“samādhi”, in Sanskrit). However, samādhi is usually a far longer-term state of being, normally arising after lengthy periods of practice.
Spiritual awakening is a relatively common phenomenon. In fact, there are most probably MILLIONS of persons currently on earth who have experienced some kind of awakening, where they directly perceive themselves to be more than a mere body-mind complex. The experience can be either totally spontaneous, or it can follow many decades of intense spiritual practice (“sādhanā”, in Sanskrit). However, there is no direct causal link between religious practices and awakening experiences, despite what most religionists (“sādhaka”, in Sanskrit) believe.
It is common for newly-awakened persons to CONFUSE and conflate relative and absolute truth. That is to say, when neophyte buddhas speak of relative concepts, they invariably use absolute terms. This is colloquially known as the “spiritual side-step” or as “spiritual bypassing”.
For instance, they may make such statements as: “You don't exist”; “Nothing ever happened”; “There is no right or wrong”; “Everything and/or everyone is equal”; “I am not my body”; “We are One”; and “I am you, and you are me”. Hopefully, such persons will come to see that there is no need to speak about everything from the Absolute perspective. Verily, it is unbeneficial to the persons with whom they are conversing (unless, of course, those third persons are thoroughly deluded materialists, who are unable to see beyond the physical realm).
Awakening to one’s true nature does NOT automatically promote one to being a saint, since one’s unique characteristics, flaws and obsessions may perdure. There is an abundance of evidence that awakening experiences can be induced simply by the administration of certain hallucinogenic drugs, so to claim that one is exceptionally remarkable just for being a buddha, is rather conceited.
Unfortunately (for spiritual-seekers), there is a multitude of awakened or partially-awakened persons who mistakenly believe that they are somehow enlightened masters, and proceed to embark on a teaching career.
The fact is, practically every one of these BOGUS “gurus” are afflicted with a narcissistic, demonic mentality, bereft of morality, and ought to be exposed and denounced for the fraudsters that they are.
As will be very succinctly explained in forthcoming chapters of this Holy Scripture, it is the sacred duty of members of the Priesthood ALONE to disseminate religious/spiritual knowledge throughout society (or to be more accurate, teach seminarians and the leader of the government, who in turn teach other men, who in turn teach their own subordinates). Simply attaining a “spiritual state”, even with the benefit of a vast body of knowledge, does not automatically confer authority on a person to become a spiritual master (“guru”, in Sanskrit). There is, in fact, an enormous gulf between the two (that is, between an awakened non-priest working as a spiritual teacher, and an enlightened spiritual master).
Most persons would undoubtedly disapprove of a person stealing the property of another, yet think nothing of a working-class chap or a mere woman performing the function of a priest (“brāhmaṇa”, in Sanskrit). The fact is, when any person (other than a priest/guru) assumes the role of a spiritual leader, he or she is quite LITERALLY stealing the occupation of a priest. The phrase “The blind leading the blind” is pertinent here.
By understanding the entirety of this “Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, it shall assist one in the discernment necessary to distinguish an actual spiritual master from a person who may superficially seem to be a wise and holy teacher by the masses, yet is, in fact, a charlatan.
Unfortunately, only a wise sage can identify his peers, so it requires a genuine prophet to recognize which spiritual teachers are ACTUAL masters. Nevertheless, as a general rule, at least ninety-nine per cent of those giving spiritual precepts to society, are unqualified to do so (see Chapter 20 to know the prerequisites for a member of the Holy Priesthood. Despite what many believe, priests are not at all ordinary men).
LIBERATION:
“Liberation” means “freedom”. Thus, a liberated soul is a person who has become emancipated from the five kinds of suffering (blame, shame, pride, regrets/expectations, and anxiety), all of which are based on the belief in personal AGENCY. Read Chapter 15 to understand the nature of suffering, and Chapter 11 to understand that humans are not independent agents with freedom of volition.
Awakening experiences are not a prerequisite to being liberated from suffering.
LIKEWISE, not all liberated persons are automatically enlightened (at least not to the degree necessary in order to be labelled as such), but there is a strong correlation between the two states of being. It's possible to be liberated, whilst not possessing a deep understanding of life.
A liberated person is scarce, because very few understand the true nature of suffering, and of those who do understand the distinction between psycho-physical pain and ACTUAL (psychological) suffering, it is difficult to surrender to one's circumstances, free of obsessive thinking and judging. Liberated souls are usually those who have diligently practiced one of the four systems of yoga described in Chapter 16.
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Great
This is a really important thing to remember. Don’t get lost in the sauce.
All depends on the type of meditation you practice. Almost all have benefits to some degree but Transcendental Meditation is the the easiest and most effective (backed by more scientific analysis than any other) and as someone who has practiced it for 2 years now, I can say it will help you in every aspect of your life, and you will feel ‘enlightened’ from doing it. Enlightenment is different to everyone but to me, it’s feeling completely content with all aspects of life at all times, and on rare occasions when I experience really deep meditative state after meditating, a euphoric feeling can overcome me which can only be described as pure bliss. The best thing in life is being happy, Transcendental Meditation provides you the opportunity to feel it in every aspect of life without trying to fill the happiness hole with meaningless materialist objects and goals.
Chasing after enlightenment makes you a Rick Sanchez. If you join the Foundation.
Finite Nature vs Infinite Nature:
Everything naturally occurring is Nature, which includes plants, microorganisms, humans (all lifeforms), atoms, energy, stars, planets, black holes, cancer, AIDS, space, Dreams, and Consciousness.
(Why would Nature be finite?)
Without Infinity, there is only infinite regress; E.g. String Theory: what caused the strings, where did the strings come from, what came before the strings; E.g. The Big Bang: what caused the initial singularity, what came before the initial singularity, etc. Considering "Nothingness" is an obvious fallacy, there must always be Something.
Prove Nothingness, while keeping in mind: Nothingness can only be "proven" in the absence of an observer. If described (observed) by an observer, Nothing becomes something (think hard about this). This would also connote a field of infinite Nothingness randomly formed a spec (our Universe) of somethingness – which is nonsensical.
Provisional science cannot claim authority over reality, at best it can only provide fuzzy hints. Science is a game of "let’s pretend," played with symbols and sensors. Its power lies in utility, not truth. To mistake physics/maths for reality is to worship the finger pointing at the moon.
Our cosmological sciences are akin to a microorganism residing within a human (on Earth), actively exploring the Andromeda galaxy. Our nearly insignificant signals bouncing off of fragments of Infinity – the margins for error are "astronomical".
"So far as the theories of mathematics are about reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality" – Albert Einstein
Why would Nature form brains/minds to exhibit consciousness other than to experience reality; considering experiencing reality is the objective of consciousness?
It connotes conscious intent, via consciousness (Nature).
Consciousness/Experiences:
Disneyland (Reality) – Patrons (Consciousness) = Nothingness = Fallacy.
Instead, we Patrons (Nature) are the architects of our own theater called Reality.
All life exists for the sake of experiences (regardless of good/bad).
A thought experiment:
On a plain sheet of paper, draw a single dot (.) in the very center.
The paper represents infinite space. Everything beyond the boundaries of the sheet also represents endless (empty) space.
The dot represents 'The Big Bang'.
Everything humanity is aware of – exists within the dot (our currently expanding universe).
If the observers of this singular dot, zoom far enough away – the dot will cease to exist. The dot will be extinguished through expansion/evaporation – wholly consumed by an infinite void (due to cosmic scales/distances). This would prohibit existence from 'being'. (Yet here we are).
Furthermore this would connote The Big Bang occurred at random, within an infinite void of nothingness – suggesting 'somethingness from nothingness' – which is a fallacy.
Without considering potential forces being exerted upon our reality/universe (from beyond the boundaries of our observations) – is an incomplete interpretation.
Clearly the remainder of the sheet of paper cannot be an infinite void.
The expansion of our universe is accelerating. If our cosmic expansion were occurring within a void, our reality would have concluded before it began (poof). (Yet here we are).
If we are a facet of Infinity – we are Infinity. Along with everything being intimated.
Instead imagine the sheet and everything beyond – riddled with infinite dots.
Every universe is a particle, every particle is a universe.
(Infinity is self-propagating).
Thus Infinity is a superdeterministic preexisting condition.
Infinity being absolute simultaneity.
Expresses infinite probabilities – Deterministically.
Every reality.
Every life.
Is an intended narrative.
(The largest cannot exist without the smallest)
Although our universe is finite (as evidenced by expansion).
Infinity exists at a fixed maximal size, without borders/boundaries: Infinity is forever in every sense, within which infinite universes/realities are housed – each a distinct experience.
(Infinity > Multi)
Infinity accounts for every variation, including variations in thoughts.
Reality is an infinite fractal consciousness; whereby all realities, every possibility, along with every imaginable and unimaginable thing, is a fragment of said consciousness – which we refer to as Nature.
We are Nature.
We are "God" (figurative); fragmented into infinite experiences.
An Infinity without borders or constraints; with infinite energy.
We are all the same entity; existing for the sake of experiences.
Time:
A seemingly endless cadence of day/night cycles, conducted over the course of the Human epoch. Untold billions of Homo Sapiens Sapiens; generation after generation – conditioned by Nature to accept finality. The circadian rhythm, an innate mechanism, a constant reminder; consciousness an ephemeral experience, fleeting with every moment, through every exhalation. Selene a blanket of night, engulfing all into her dreamy embrace – the analog of Stella, raining rays of warmth, nourishing existence into being; beckoning the vivacity of life to stir yet again.
Day into night, night into day – a rhythm to remind us that none of Natures constructs are created without an expiry. Whether measured by 6.62607004 × 10-34 m2 kg / s; or by a Supereon, we are cascading energies, propagating our collective experiences – vainly attempting to elicit a sense of ‘self’ in hopes of staving off oblivion. Not realizing that the only allowable paradox to exist, is existence; a lucid dream conducted by the everlasting artistry of Gaia.
Time.
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the Alchemist
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Naked apes trying to figure out what every other species knows since birth. It's comical.
Or, in summary: "Ingorance is bliss." And its moronic.
It is important to differentiate between acceptance and approval/agreement and recognizing what we can truly control.
Indeed, before enlightenment I was a tree in the forest whereas after enlightenment I am becoming a forest in the tree.
BIG THINK should have Dr. Ellen Langer on their platform!
Optional suffering, cool, unoptional
I kind of intuited all this stuff when I was a child, this is just lazy, surface level garbage. Did this guy really need to tell us that emotions we feel other people also feel? If you don't feel this stuff naturally, I think past human tribes would have stoned you or exiled you
Impermanence is the cure for attatchment to things, states and ideas.
Annicca, anatta, dukha – the 3 characteristiics of existence
The thing that struck me while watching this is how similar a vibe it is to someone speaking enthusiastically about their fundamentalist Christian belief.
Whether it’s a religious belief, or the practice of meditation
etc, it would seem that the idea is to promote the concept that all is well and nothing is a problem because our human experience is nothing in the face of the big picture, outside our lived experience.
Acceptance of the human condition because paradise or endless joy awaits the one who accepts the ‘truth’, or does it?
I think I believe in whatever the opposite of zen is
“Zen is nothing”. Fitting as I got nothing from this discussion of Zen.
Cycle is fundamental property of the Universe. Geometric circle matches some properties including time of infinity.
His voice is so soothing.
Very down to earth.
It hurts my vagina that I'm not american, and none of this makes sense
Well stated.
Repost??
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It’s just like birth.
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